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Thr(eye)ve?

“Turning and turning in the widening gyre

The falcon cannot hear the falconer;

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere

The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

the best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.”

That’s Yeats up there, time traveling on the wings of the Golden Dawn. Yeats of course was a member of A.E. Waite’s spiritualist click. His wife a channel. He wrote “A Vision” which is essentially a notebook of his wife’s medium sessions. A work that confounded followers and critics alike. But I digress. The Second Coming is at hand, or so it seems. The laws of Newtonian physics are kicking in. One side pushes and the other pushes back, until the pushing escalates into all out conflict in the streets.

In anarchy and chaos, there is no time. History is erased in the frenzy of the moment. Crisis eliminates the linear perspective. Chaos eviscerates all that has gone before it. It is the splitting of the social and historical atom. We’re rapidly approaching the chaotic flashpoint in the event horizon. We’re being sucked in at neutrino speeds by McKenna’s strange attractor at the end of time. Just wait until Uranus goes direct in December on 12/10/11 on the Gemini full lunar eclipse. But in the frenzied rush to make it right, hit the re-set, start over, invocation ov chaos, etc., you might want to take a few, deep, breaths before you start spinning off into the next dust devil of change. All is not what it appears to be in the land of a thousand trances.

For the next 1500 words or so, I’m the guy that’s going to be peeing in the punch bowl just a little. It’s Mars in Virgo–can’t help it. I’ll be dissecting “Thrive” released on 11/11/11 when Neptune was in Aquarius at 28 degrees. “Thrive” is the new wake-up-call, a truth-buzz produced by James Foster Gamble, scion of the Procter and Gamble fortune. Let me just say that trying to find anything on Foster Gamble, other than “Thrive” related material is nearly impossible. That in and of itself raises my Spock-like brow just little. BTW, isn’t Spock the archetype for Virgo? One of the only things that I could track down on Gamble was a story in the S.F. Gate from 1995, where he supported the rabid one-worlder, Jim Garrison. Garrison was an ideologue that tapped into a donor base of rich kids from elite families. He called them, “donuts” his code for “do nothings.”

ZEITGEIST IS JOHN AND THRIVE IS JESUS . . .SORT OF

In 2007, Peter Joseph Merola, now just “Peter Joseph” released the first edition of “Zeitgeist.” It took place when Neptune was also in Aquarius (21 degrees). Coming on the heels of the wildly successful, “Loose Change,” “Zeitgeist” pioneered the internet as a venue to release film, video, etc. The internet, thanks to “Loose Change” and “Zeigeist” has became a very relevant distribution channel. “Thrive” follows in that vein, not just from a distribution perspective, but also to a large degree, ideologically. And, like “Zeitgeist” which has started its own movement/community, “Thrive” has as well.

When looking at “Zeitgeist” in retrospect, it was very effective at addressing the ills of our time, which are traced back to manipulation of the money supply, lying and deceit by governments, particularly as it related to the myriad mistruths regarding 911. It took on religion in a very big way, particularly Christianity, based on the work of Archarya S. In fact, “Zeitgeist” murders Christ. But it acts as a way shower, in the same symbolic function that John did for Jesus, for “Thrive”.

Now I need to be clear, that there is no clear commercial link between the two films and the two filmmakers, and only John Perkins, who shows up in Zeitgeist 2.0 makes an appearance in “Thrive.”

A common theme that’s emerging in both films, especially caught in the rush of the OWS rapids is the end of money or at the very least, our concept of it. Its coming at us at light speed.

In “Zeitgeist” they spend a great deal of time hyping their own, future based solution; “The Venus Project.” I have to admit I was pretty dazzled by it at first, even if Jacques Fresco’s designs were like a 1970′s future forward wet-dream. It sounded oh so, “utopian” until you read the fine print on the contract. First off, the base line for the Venus Project is that society must adhere to the Earth’s load. Any amount of people above the Earth’s load is not allowable. Two questions then arise; Who determines the Earth’s load? And what happens if there are more people than load space? Is it the same people that are defining climate change that calculate the Earth’s load? Joseph says that there are hard data points and metrics, that we should allow “science” to determine this. Okay, so let’s assume for a moment that we have a council of ahem, 12 people that we trust to arrive at a rational capacity for smooth existence. Then we come to the next piece, which is tricky.

If we’re exceeding the capacity of the load, who goes? Some people are going to have to take dirt naps. And then what? Gotta stay under the load. Population control. Not everyone can procreate. Some of you might actually stand up and applaud this essential detail. But all of a sudden, “The Venus Project” is starting to feel a lot like a soft sell eugenics trip. “Zeitgeist” is unmistakably socialist in this regard. “Thrive” is more than slightly different as it champions the Austrian school of economics founded by Ludwig Von Mises, Ron Paul’s spiritual mentor.

But I’m referencing “Zeitgeist” because as I peruse the world-wide-interwebs, I see people linking the two films together on their FB pages, Twitter, etc. “Zeitgeist” + “Thrive” = The rise of a cosmology.

A NEW SOCIAL GNOSIS

“Thrive” goes deeper in some ways than “Zeitgeist” when it comes to naming names, pointing a finger at the families who have raped, pillaged and plundered the planet, while keeping most of us distracted, ignorant and blind to their fiscal and psychological manipulations. Here, “Thrive” plays the role of Jesus in the market on the sabbath, upending the tables of the merchants and the money lenders. Then it takes God completely out of the picture, telling us that its aliens who are the gods and they’ve been leaving us clues to help us liberate ourselves with free energy. Free energy is the “Venus Project” for “Thrive.” In some ways, free energy is a metaphor for “Christ Consciousness” and the tapping of the grid will liberate humanity and free us from the chains of our economic oppressors, who are denying us this great gift. I don’t actually have a problem with this, but there are two things that really jump out. First, there is never any mention of “God” in “Thrive.” This is the highest form of human potential on the cusp of humanity as gods.

If I were a Christian, at this point in the film, I would be very dubious. The film feels like its promoting fallen angels (aliens) and the power of man vs the power of God. But I’m not a Christian per se and I don’t have many issues with the premise. The second question that arises with free energy is that are we a spiritual match at a collective level to handle the power of free energy? I am not sure. But what I do know, is that free energy is the Christ for “Thrive” if you get my drift. So in this regard, “Zeitgeist” is “John” and “Thrive” is Jesus. Which brings us to the social assemblage point of both films.

My uncle recently read Dan Brown’s The Lost Symbol which is basically a paen to Freemasonry, gnosticism and noetic sciences. Upon reading it, my uncle immediately wanted to learn more about noetic sciences. Who is one of the key figures in “Thrive”? Edgar Mitchell of IONS (SION), “The Institute Of Noetic Sciences.” Since the advent of The Da Vinci Code, up through The Lost Symbol, with nearly constant 24 hour programming on “The History Channel” of ancient aliens, Nostradamus, Freemasonry, The Knights Templar, end times, UFO’s, abductions, etc, we’re awash in this emerging cosmology. In essence, the world is being converted into a Reader’s Digest version of a mystery school, with the populace being initiated by various degrees. But are we really getting the “truth”?

There always seems to be a synthetic/syncretic dynamic at play. The synthetic piece is the amalgam of beliefs that pass for truth, kluged together. By exposing the fascia of the conspiracy or truth (not the bones) people feel like they are getting glimpses of what’s behind the veil. The syncretic factor is the knowledge that is outside the bounds of the initiate. In fact, “Thrive” is a classic syncretic exposition. It is not in the evolution/science/atheist camp, nor is it in the conservative Christian, creationist camp. In this regard it is classically syncretic and all three dispositions form a triangulated relationship, which of course form neatly into a pyramid; the classic geometry of the mystery school.

As I’ve mentioned previously, astrologically, “Thrive” was released with Neptune in Aquarius, at the 28th degree. The Sabian Symbol for the 29th/30th degree of Aquarius is especially interesting in the light of “Thrive”;“Deeply Rooted In The Past Of A Very Ancient Culture, A Spiritual Brotherhood In Which Many Individual Minds Are Merged Into The Glowing Light Of A Unanimous Consciousness Is Revealed To One Who Has Emerged Successfully From His Metamorphosis.. “Thrive” is a symbol of this, and I have little doubt that the producers were not aware of it and the 11-11-11 (33) portal. But we have to ask ourselves, always, who thrives from events, movements, media?

GUILT BY ASSOCIATION?

Foster Gamble is a direct descendent of the Procter and Gamble fortune. He addresses this somewhat in the film and even breaks down P&G’s connection to the production of RFID chips. He does not however touch on the devastating affects on animals with cruel testing and of course heavy environmental damage from any number of their products. I’m being fair here, because even if he did, what good would it do to spend an inordinate amount of time recounting the sins of the father? And its not like every child from a rich family follows obediently in the exploitative footsteps of their ancestors. But the P&G connection must be noted.

Procter and Gamble is enormous. From Crest to Christina Aguilera Perfumes, they’re a huge, multi-national, with massive production/output. P&G has had plenty of claims against them over the years when it comes to how they use and abuse the environment. One of the more intriguing one’s comes from the Kenya Wildlife Service and gives a fascinating glimpse into where and how materials are procured and ultimately, what they’re used for. This from ictsd.org;

“The Kenya Wildlife Service (KWS) has launched a claim against Procter & Gamble and the biotechnology firm Genecor International for a share of the profits acquired from enzymes extracted in Kenya. During a 1998 research mission by scientists from Genecor and the University of Leicester, research samples from the soda flats of Lake Bogoria, Kenya, were taken without the approval of the KWS. Genecor later found the samples to contain valuable “extremophiles”, so called because of their ability to thrive in extreme conditions. Genecor cloned the highly alkaline enzymes and later sold them to Procter & Gamble, who went on to use them as a key ingredient in Tide Alternative Bleach Detergent and “stonewashing” material. KWS has enlisted the scientific support of the International Centre of Insect Physiology and Ecology (Icipe) and legal assistance from the Public Interest Intellectual Property Advisors (PIIPA) in launching the claim under the Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD). The CBD affirms the sovereign rights of signatories over the biological resources found on their territories and commits parties to “fair, equitable sharing of the benefits accruing from the utilisation of genetic resources”. The claim could involve millions of dollars and could also put a halt to the illegal extraction of the country’s biological resources.

Extremophiles! I just love it! Thrive and Extremophiles in one press release. Can’t make this stuff up. Anyway . . .

The most intriguing and salacious scandal P&G has been engaged in involves its logo, which Christians decoded to be the devil himself. In fact it was such an issue them, that they changed their logo. a while back, P&G’s president supposedly came onto the Phil Donahue show and declared that he was a member of the Church of Satan. No one has been able to prove this and it is in the dustbin of urban legends, but that didn’t stop Amway. They ran with it and accused P&G of satanic practices. They lost big in a court of law to the tune of $16 mill for spreading the satanic scandal. Right or wrong, after all these years, its a stain that P&G still can’t bleach out of it’s reputation.

Clarence Gamble, part of the Gamble clan was also a noted eugenicist. I’m in no way accusing Foster Gamble as being a closet satanist because he is promoting a film that claims that we are descended from aliens (fallen angels) and not God. I would never do that. I would never accuse the makers of “Thrive” as trafficking in occult symbolism, like having a fetching femme strike an alluring “Eye Of Horus” pose just like P&G’s own Christina Aguilera (Christ Eagle). I would never stoop to such low, journalistic standards. Instead, I think we should have a clear eyed look at the stars of “Thrive” and delve into their backgrounds just a bit. Here we go.

Barbara Marx-Hubbard
One of my faves. Anytime you can have Karl Marx and L. Ron Hubbard in your name, you go straight to the top of the list. Her father was Louis Marx, the world’s most successful toy maker, known as the Henry Ford of toys, he was given the nickname, “The Toycoon.” Marx profited handsomely off the industrialization of post-war Japan, where he manufactured assembly line toys and helped kick-start the march towards globalism. She shares a similar, corporate elite lineage with Foster Gamble. Even a cursory glimpse of Marx-Hubbard, I mean we’re not even talking 2-3 levels deep, we’re just flecking off light layers, reveals some interesting stuff. Here are just a few of her professional connections; “Member and futurist/strategist of Task Force Delta; a United States Army think tank. Hubbard is also a former director of the Federal Union, founded by Fabian Socialist Rhodes Scholar Clarence Streit. supported by Rockefeller Fund.” (Wikipedia). And this little nugget is more low hanging fruit from the same Wikipedia page. This is the selection in full;

“`New Age author, Barbara Marx Hubbard, as she put a fitting conclusion on “The State of the World Forum.” In her book, THE BOOK OF CO-CREATION, she writes: “Out of the full spectrum of the human personality, one-fourth is elected to transcend and one-fourth are destructive, defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a natural death. Now, as we approach the quantum shift from the creature-human to the co-creative human – the human who is an inheritor of god-like powers – the destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body. Fortunately, you are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects – we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death. We come to bring death to those who are unable to know God… The riders of the pale horse are about to pass among you. Grim reapers, they will separate the wheat from the chaff. This is the most painful period in the history of humanity

Okay . . .Do we want to break that down a little? “He selects – we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.” Really? Who is the we? Sounds like more closet eugenics cloaked as benign spiritual allegory. She is one of the linchpins of Gamble’s film? I could drop down a few levels, but we have a lot of ground to cover.

Amy Goodman
Goodman has long been associated with social justice and progressive reform and is a huge gate keeper as the voice for “Democracy Now.” Goodman got her street cred when she took on ex-president Bill Clinton about Leonard Pelitier, East Timor, Israel/Palestine and NAFTA. Clinton labeled her “extreme” and Goodman (Aries) became a face and a voice for “democracy.” But much like Noam Chomsky, Goodman stands in the way of any serious investigation of 911, even though she did have Dylan Avery of “Loose Change” on her show. Her presence in “Thrive” is an iconic selling point. She is a cipher for the social change contingent. So now we have a matriarch of the new age and a warrior for social justice, both from roughly the same area of New York, moving the “Thrive” agenda forward.

Deepak Chopra
Chopra is becoming the Zelig of consciousness. He’s all over the place now. He used to be solely on the mind/body tip, the sadhu of somatic connections. But he’s expanded his agenda, taken on Stephen Hawking and Richard Dawkins and now he’s moved onto the “Thrive” scene. Chopra made a lot of cash during fat times, selling people the “The Seven Spiritual Laws Of Success.” Now he’s hopped on the hope and doom express. Chopra is the mind/body health figurehead for “Thrive.” I find it interesting that Chopra has been named a senior member of the “Gallup Organization” which is dedicated to shaping, I mean sharing the public’s opinions. Chopra and his son, Gotham, founded “Virgin Comics” in a partnership with Richard Branson to promote the Kabbalah. Chopra is the son of a prominent Indian physician. So put him down as yet another agent of elite origins. “Thrive” is starting to look like a country club.

David Icke
Icke burst onto the scene with a vengeance, a reptile hunter, blowing the cover of the royal families and bloodlines. A former soccer player and sports presenter for English T.V., Icke has been on a crusade against the fork tongued dracs. A lot of people knock him for this and that it detracts from the actual information that Icke has. I don’t. I personally think the reptilian theme/meme is apropos for the times, since it seems that only cold-blooded types could traffic in the marketplace of human misery and suffering. Real or not, reptilian consciousness is a fit. Icke has been accused of lifting others research. His latest detractors claim that he’s gone from blowing the whistle to shining turds, promoting a feel good new agey philosophy. I’m not sure that Icke had much a of choice. You can only bang the bogeyman drum for so long. But he’s here to anchor the crytpo-new age conspiracy types..

So let’s do a quick roll call.

Barbara Marx-Hubbard: New age ascension contingent.

Amy Goodman: Left gate-keeper contingent.

Deepak Chopra: Mind/Body magical medicine new age contingent.

David Icke: Proto-new age conspiracy contingent.

That’s a lot of demographics in one film. You’ve got Stephen Greer (alien contingent), Edgar Mitchell (noetic contingent), Brian O’Leary (free energy contingent), G. Edward Griffin (Libertarian/Ron Paul contingent) and on it goes. It’s a smart marketing move on Gamble’s part, but frankly, you are known by the company you keep, and “Thrive” has some dubious friends. Watch it for free if you can. There’s some good info in there. While “Zeitgeist” is decidedly more socialist, “Thrive” occupies a libertarian patch of ideological real estate. But don’t mortgage your future without really scrutinizing the cast of characters and ultimately, who this film benefits.

So what is “Thrive” ultimately? Is it an Aquarian fluffer, getting us all turned on and primed for alien or fake alien contact? Is it a bracing splash of hidden history 101 for the masses to awaken from their sleep? Or is it a dramatic salvo lobbed into the public arena by the “Law of One” in their ancient battle with “The Sons Of Belial” over the direction and ownership of humanities soul? In any event, the time for a film like “Thrive” is now. People are hungry–they’re craving the truth. But is “Thrive” some slightly altered, genetically modified, low-hanging fruit of media that changes your perception of the truth, even though it tastes like the real thing?

One final bit really jumps out at me; If Gamble wants to have this film make a deep impact, why are they so proprietary with it when people upload it to youtube? Why didn’t they just give it away? I guess that’s for Zeitgeist, they’re the socialists. If you want to see “Thrive” and thrive, you’ll have to pay the man.

33 Responses to “Breaking Down Thrive, Neptune in Aquarius’s Zeitgeist Doppelganger”
  1. Stunning. Truly the most brilliant piece I’ve seen of yours. You have outdone yourself. To say the least, you have managed to stealthily sink down into the dirty depths & still pull out the golden chunks of shiny truth, even if the truth itself is dirty – as well as applying your laser vision to seamlessly weave the threads of the parallels & polarities; layer, after layer.

    *wowed*

  2. Thanks Mary. I really appreciate it.

  3. You rule Sugar. I am very thankful for you and your wisdom. Co-opted mass realities are often quite boring after a while. It is good to see the new worlds being developed through the mass opening the veils and awakenings of perception. The illusions of time waves are indeed interesting. It seems that everything comes right when it needs to.

  4. This is really great, Robert, thank you. I have seen reviews yelling YAY or NAY, but none that have actually put thought, time, research and effort in to truly breaking it down like you have. Extremely well written and very good food for thought.

  5. I think you nailed it Robert.
    Bravo!

  6. Thanks T.

  7. It was a real challenge on an inner level to see where this film was pinging me. I’d like to interview Foster Bailey.

  8. A correction…

    The man’s name is LUDWIG Von Mises, and he has nothing to do with being a “spiritual” leader of Ron Paul. Perhaps if you are drawing a connection between the “church” or “religion” of economics, then Mises could be considered a member of the clergy, but that connection is difficult to make to anyone who does not have a comfortable understanding of Ron Paul and Austrian economics.

    Perhaps, for accuracy’s sake, you will want to change that.

  9. Thanks, I had a cross wire of Herbert Von Karajan (The Nazi conductor) and Von Mises while typing. I made the correction, but I stand by my assertion that Von Mises is the equivalent of a spiritual leader for Paul as Paul, in my mind has an almost religious like obsession with him. Its allegorical.

  10. Excellent parsing of the film, Robert. As for Marx Hubbard & Goodman, could not agree more. Especially Amy Goodman. Her refusal to engage discussions on the anomalies of 9/11 is the big tipoff. Deepak Chopra = Zelig … hilarious. Not sure I would consider him a bonafide elite however he is a media darling and only a toe-dipper when it comes to exposing the dark alleys of the agenda. Now David Icke is a different matter. He’s the real deal in my book. Can’t find a sell-out bone anywhere there. You did not mention Nassim Haramein or Catherine Austin Fitts. Austin Fitts work in explaining the financial system, how money works, new ways of setting up economies is unique & worth considering. I suggest that you interview both Nassim & Catherine & by all means, get in touch with Foster Gamble and have him on your show for a chat. I knew who he was the minute he said his name. And yes, P&G is right up there with meanest and baddest asses of all, and yes the timing of the film’s release is worth a second look. All that said, I appreciate that he made the film. There are ways to view it for free online & expect that it will be made free to view at some point. When John Robbins broke ranks with his ice cream fortune heritage years ago, there were those that cried foul. As far as I know, he’s never gone back. I don’t know squat about Foster Gamble but, for now, I’ll assume that he’s an illuminati ex-pat. That humanity stop dividing itself against its parts ad nauseum would be a giant step toward moving forward. That bit I got clearly from the movie. Thanks again, for your New Yorker-worthy writing (that’s a high compliment, btw) & let us all know when these folks will be on your radio show. Mazeltov!

  11. Hi Mel,

    I know Nassim and he’s brilliant and a cool dude. I might have him on one day. He is not held in high regard by traditional physicists. They are fairly dismissive of his ideas, but that doesn’t bother me. His paper on the Schwartzchild Principle is getting some notice with open minded academics. Thanks for the prod on him. Austin-Fitts is interesting and yet I still get a sense that she is not bringing the full story to the fore. I’ve hung out with Patrick Flanagan, drinking tequilla until 3am listening to him go on and on about being bit by a poisonous viper and getting through it. It was interesting, but after the 30th minute I was ready to move to another topic of conversation, though it was his RV, so I couldn’t be rude.

    Icke?

    He’s held in high regard by a lot of folks in the movement. I was a big fan for quite a few years. I’ve always wondered why David hasn’t been offed or in jail yet. If you want my real opinion, I think David is a reptile himself.

    Now he could be a good reptile. Yes, I would assume that there are reptiles with a conscience, just like there are Masons that have a conscience and walked away.

    Ultimately, I’m glad you liked the piece.

  12. Hey Robert, I really like this blog you wrote. I haven’t seen Thrive, but have been wary of seeing it. Thank you for the breakdown. I like your point of view. All the best, Jean

  13. Thanks Jean.

  14. Good stuff Robert, insightful and on point as usual xx

  15. What a good article you’ve written! I enjoyed your amusing validation of the troubling insights, which I only felt on reflection. My own first reaction to Thrive was unbridled enthusiasm. I felt bitterly disappointed to learn that Foster Gamble was sending threatening letters to poor people, like myself, who were only too eager to promote his movie for free! I also agree that Thrive is worth watching free. I love how Thrive illustrates Nassim Haramein’s unified theory & shows the best Crop Circle diciphering ever.

  16. Thanks Luna. Nice to hear from you again.

  17. What I find interesting about Nassim is his relationship with Gamble. Nassim apparently has free energy/time travel technology he has been working on for a while. Wondering how much Gamble is funding him, if at all? And how is Nassim not on the list of dead or threatened inventors at this point? That’s troubling news regarding Gamble’s heavy handed treatment and not surprising. Maybe if you helped him sell some Thrive T-shirts, caps, hoodies, mugs and bumper stickers, he might be a little more receptive. Glad you found some meaning in the piece.

  18. I’ve read your blog for a while but don’t think I’ve commented before or maybe once upon a time.

    I’ve seen Thrive and initially it seemed to be upfront and a way to awaken those still not sure about all the material out there. Then I explored the Free Energy Movement and found they are connected to The Sierra Club. Enough said!

    From that I looked at all the other ‘connections’ and your piece Robert is a great expose of these connections that are there behind the scenes, for which I thank you for bringing it to your readers’ attention.

  19. Thanks Rossa. I don’t think that the free energy movement is bad per se, but its obviously one that’s entirely controlled and managed and even if it is tabled, it will not be free. There’s the rub. There will be a price to pay for it’s access, if controlled by the very same elites that Foster Gamble is supposedly exposing.

  20. Great read and right on again Robert. As an addendum to the Zeitgeist flick, the female narrator in that movie has a distinctive voice, I found her wedged in this movie: The Future of Food: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsFVAAzyWiY&list=PLF02D5C7BB20817EA&index=11&feature=plpp_video, where they have a splice from Monsanto’s own inside propaganda…..there is that voice. So why is that same voice on the Zeitgeist movie and used (hired) by Monsanto to narrate their own inside films? We are being ‘programmed’ by the same folks, now just feeding the waking, and putting them back to bed.
    As if anything on such a large scale would be allowed if it were actually sharing new info. Thrive feels as icky as they come, all topping no reality. The idea’s are as simple as they must think we actually are.

  21. OH, it is at around 38 minutes into the film where the ‘voice’ can be heard.

  22. Great catch on the food voice/piece.

  23. Thank You for the Truth!

  24. There is a lot of times where you have inappropriate conjecture… for example, one that really struck out to me, was where you contemplate about the Venus Project and its “only enough people that the Earth can support”. Well, the ‘general consensus’ as told to us by the establishment, is that the earth can ‘safely’ hold 500mil people (according to georgia guidestones). But what about Kryon, who says the Earth can be adapted with to support up to 50 billion people? So what if the case is that noone has to go at all, no one has to be chosen to take ‘dirt naps’ as you put it. This is just one example, but there is a lot of ‘doom and gloom’ conjecture like this throughout your piece. Also, David Icke is legit, should look into what he says beyond the reptiles and beyond what “other people accuse him of”. How about the Credo Mutwa interviews to start.

  25. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I am very familiar with Credo Mutwa. I actually know one of his apprentices. Do you know what she shared with me? That Credo wants nothing to do with Icke. I know a lot of people are very loyal to David. I even have his books. I think his work on Diana is very good. But I don’t dig the fact that he had a go at Jesse Ventura and tried to make himself look better as a result. That’s some old school BS.

    As far as Kryon goes, I don’t give a shit. Kryon is a channeled entity. I have very little faith in channels having spent time around them. Is there anything else you’d like to take issue with?

  26. I don’t know if its the truth Irina. Its my perception and the facts that I could interpret to the best of my ability and knowledge.

  27. Good job of collecting background on the Thrive stars, but also on distracting attention away from the families that have got our money.

  28. Oh, you mean families like those of Barbara Marx-Hubbard’s? I guess you didn’t read her bio closely enough. Or how about Chopra who is anything but a whistleblower on said “families” and is in fact an Indian version an “elite” family. Speaking of distraction, Foster Bailey completely avoids the geo-political tangle known as Israel, zionism, AIPAC and the huge sums of money that get funneled out of the US to the tune of hundreds of billions each year, debt and payment free.

    I’ve spent two years on this blog dissecting those “families” from my own perspective.

  29. C. M. Cameron says:

    Just wondering about your references to Barbara Marx Hubbard. I can’t find any hard connection between the quoted “wikipedia” statement and her. (This quote can not be found on Wikipedia at this time.) Those, on the web, that do make reference to this quote seem questionable. I have read her book “Conscious Evolution” which has a similar theme to the book “Revelation: Our Crisis is a Birth (The Book of Co Creation).” Both books are listed on her website. I don’t find any reference to eugenic type thinking in her writing… though I know that often, when words are taken out of context, their meaning can shift. Since I don’t have a hard copy of this book it is hard to say whether she wrote this and in what context. I have not watched the movie
    “Thrive,” as of yet but I’m very curious.
    Also I’m not certain how Amy Goodman could stand in the way of an investigation of September 11th? There are many reputable scientists that are questioning the official story, and as of yet, that has not spurred further investigation. Yet let us not forget that Amy Goodman is still part of the media that can be pressured in many ways by the powers that be. I have many times been shocked that fair coverage of the dangerous ingredients in vaccines can not be found on public television and public radio. It is simply swept up into the “anti-vaccine”/ “pro-vaccine” -black and white way of thinking and no real meaningful discussion of the gray area in between occurs. I guess when you come right down to it… everything really is gray. I like what Jill Bolte Taylor says… we need to learn to “step to the right” of our left hemisphere to find balance.

  30. Hello C.M.,

    BMH is on the board of the World Futures Society which has also had as its members Robert McNamara, genocidal architect of the Vietnam war and member of the Trilateral Commission and Maurice Strong, noted globalist, Rothschild agent and if you are to believe Dallas Goldbug is also Lord Mockton. Marx-Hubbard has worked with the Army on their super soldier program, and is an avowed one-worlder, through the UN.

    I think the connection between Marx-Hubbard and Gamble is through the Santa Cruz based, “Vitruvian Society.”

    My issue with Hubbard, apart from the quote that I pulled from wikipedia is that she “could have” been fighting the so-called 1%, of which she is a member, but has instead chosen to pursue the sham-baal-awe of Alice and Foster (there’s that name again) Bailey. Here’s the quotes again from B.M.H. “Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one fourth is electing to transcend… one fourth is destructive [and] they are defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a ‘natural death’…. Now as we approach the quantum shift from the creature-human to the co-creative human – the human who is the inheritor of god-like power – the destructive one fourth must be eliminated from the social body…. Fortunately, you are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.” (_The Revelation: Our Crisis is a Birth_, p.235)

    Never once have I seen B.M.H., Chopra, Marianne Williamson, Neale Donald Walsh or any other NA’er firmly affix their gaze upon the global financial situation at any time. Even Foster Gamble was at one time promoting the very same agenda through Jim Garrison as I stated earlier in the piece.

    Gamble’s connection to B.M.H. is no one off. He’s done seminars and workshops with her.

    As far as Amy Goodman goes, she has had numerous opportunities to go after the pulling of Building 7, the dancing Israelis that were detained by New Jersey police, the phony moving company, phony art students, some of whom showed up on an Israeli talk show boasting about their 911 adventures. Zero. Zip. Silence.

    I think Foster Gamble did his best to find people from various camps that would serve as touchstones/gate keepers to promote his film. There is a saying about being known by the company you keep.

  31. Starting with Phony Kony, Disclosure is becoming a daily event, and more and more people are starting to SEE through all the propaganda.. Such an excellent article here Robert, thanks for doing all the homework and exposing these people… I questioned the symbolism right from the start of this Thrive movie, and being a former fan of Zeitgeist it took a long while to see the whole picture, thank you for clarifying some aspects of that movie as well. Barbara Marx Hubbard is like the sound of long fingernails scratching a chalkboard..only a lot more dangerous. And David Icke! one minute he is scaring the hell out of people and the next telling us how powerful we are. Really glad to have come across this article. I will pass it on! Love Nassim…. These types of movies always throw in a couple of good guys, along with a tad bit of truth to confuse.
    thanks!
    karafree

  32. oh YES YES, just now reading the comments.. would be wonderful if you could interview Nassim and Catherine Austin Fitts… what do you think of her? I have always found her viewpoint very helpful, and knowledgeable without dipping too much into conspiracy points of view.
    karafree

  33. Thanks Kara. Will try to track them down.

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