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	<title>Comments on: Obama (Leo) vs. Sarah Palin (Aquarius)&#8211;It&#8217;s All In The Stars&#8211;Pt 15,  Tzipi Livni, Israel&#8217;s Cross Between Obama And Palin, First Elected Woman PM and Best Chance For Peace</title>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News reports all week have hinted that Livni would not be able to form a workable coalition.  Now the news is that she will inform Shimon Peres to call new elections for February 2009.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_politics

You drew the parallel that Livni is both Obama and Palin, but the press perceives her to be an Israeli &#039;Obama&#039;.  Will her failure to form a coalition reflect back on them? 

Is Obama going to be perceived as less likely to be able to unite?  Will American Jews who have reportedly been supporting him stick with him or reconsider?  How much will their decision have to do with what Israel wants?

Obviously, Israel will want us to elect a President who will support the status quo as far as it concerns them, i.e., continued support from the US for Israel.  Natally, Israel&#039;s chart has the eponymous asteroid in her 10th house at 21.50 Leo near its Saturn (16.25) and Mars (28.19) midpoint.  Israel also has Pluto (12.39) and the Moon (4.43) in 10th house Leo.  Palin’s Washingtonia (representing the Pentagon) is at 21.38 Leo conjunct Israel’s asteroid.  Palin’s Ascendant (19.34 Leo) is close to Israel’s Saturn/Israel midpoint while Obama’s Descendant (18.02 Leo) falls near the Pluto/Israel midpoint.

On Election Day the asteroid Israel is at 18.47 Virgo conjunct Saturn opposing Uranus.  This conjunction is transiting Obama&#039;s 7th house (using 7:24 pm Honolulu, HI); this asteroid is natally at 12.09 Cancer (5th house).  The Saturn/Israel transit will also conjunct the asteroid Washingtonia at 20.18 Rx Virgo (11th house) in Israel&#039;s natal chart.  The asteroid Barry is natally at 12.40 Cancer (9th house) where it conjuncts the asteroid Israel in Obama&#039;s natal chart.  On ED Barry will be at 8.46 Scorpio (Israel&#039;s 1st house) conjunct Obama&#039;s natal Neptune (8.36 Scorpio).  

Palin (using 2/11/1964 4:40 pm Sandpoint, ID) natally has the asteroid Israel at 1.32 Pisces in her 7th house.  She also has Saturn in her 7th at 25.12 Aquarius.  On ED the Israel/Saturn conjunction will be in her 2nd house with Uranus in her 8th.  Sarah Palin’s Moon at 4.14 Aquarius conjuncts Israel’s IC (3.56 Aquarius) and opposes Israel’s Leo Moon.  Israel has the asteroid Sara at 22.47 Taurus conjunct Israel&#039;s 7th house Sun at 23.41.  Guess what - Palin’s Sara is natally placed at 23.45 Taurus.  On ED Sara will be at 10.40 Aquarius in Israel&#039;s 4th house. Palin’s Jupiter (16.45 Aries) trines Israel’s aforementioned Saturn (by 4 min) and Pluto.  Palin’s Neptune (17.45 Scorpio) squares Israel’s Saturn.  Israel’s Uranus (24.21 Gemini) trines Palin’s Aquarius Sun (22.19), Mars (23.27) and Saturn (25.12) conjunction.

Obama’s Sun at 12.32 Leo is conjunct Israel’s Pluto (by 7 min) and Saturn.  His Saturn (25.20 Rx Capricorn) and Mars (22.34 Virgo) trine Israel’s Sun.  This Sun is squared however by Obama’s Uranus (25.16 Leo).   His Uranus is trined by Israel’s Jupiter (27.39 Rx Sagittarius).

Ironically, the asteroid Achaemenides, which I have been using to represent Iran* in another chart, is at 22.49 Rx Pisces, close to Uranus, and transiting Obama&#039;s 1st house.  This house placement could reflect Obama&#039;s statements that he would work with Iran to diplomatically resolve the nuclear issue.  The natal placement of Achaemenides is at 18.15 Aries (BHO&#039;s 2nd house) and inconjunct the ED placement of Israel.  In Palin&#039;s chart, it is natally at 21.10 Rx Gemini (her 11th house) and will square the ED placement of both Israel and Achaemenides.

I didn’t note all the aspects between the natal charts of Obama and Palin to Israel’s chart.  Not sure that matters as it appears that Israel has interesting contacts to both.  Maybe it will be clearer to you all which one has the stronger, positive contacts.

Just noticed that the asteroid Moskva (Moscow) will be at 25.06 Rx Pisces; Israel has the asteroid America at 25.45 Pisces (5th house).  (The more I look at these charts, the more I feel like I am mixing bleach and ammonia.)

*But Persians united under a genius leader, Cyrus the Great, who founded the dynasty of the Achaemenides.  (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Persians-The-Zoroastrian-civilization-76742.shtml)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News reports all week have hinted that Livni would not be able to form a workable coalition.  Now the news is that she will inform Shimon Peres to call new elections for February 2009.</p>
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<p>You drew the parallel that Livni is both Obama and Palin, but the press perceives her to be an Israeli &#8216;Obama&#8217;.  Will her failure to form a coalition reflect back on them? </p>
<p>Is Obama going to be perceived as less likely to be able to unite?  Will American Jews who have reportedly been supporting him stick with him or reconsider?  How much will their decision have to do with what Israel wants?</p>
<p>Obviously, Israel will want us to elect a President who will support the status quo as far as it concerns them, i.e., continued support from the US for Israel.  Natally, Israel&#8217;s chart has the eponymous asteroid in her 10th house at 21.50 Leo near its Saturn (16.25) and Mars (28.19) midpoint.  Israel also has Pluto (12.39) and the Moon (4.43) in 10th house Leo.  Palin’s Washingtonia (representing the Pentagon) is at 21.38 Leo conjunct Israel’s asteroid.  Palin’s Ascendant (19.34 Leo) is close to Israel’s Saturn/Israel midpoint while Obama’s Descendant (18.02 Leo) falls near the Pluto/Israel midpoint.</p>
<p>On Election Day the asteroid Israel is at 18.47 Virgo conjunct Saturn opposing Uranus.  This conjunction is transiting Obama&#8217;s 7th house (using 7:24 pm Honolulu, HI); this asteroid is natally at 12.09 Cancer (5th house).  The Saturn/Israel transit will also conjunct the asteroid Washingtonia at 20.18 Rx Virgo (11th house) in Israel&#8217;s natal chart.  The asteroid Barry is natally at 12.40 Cancer (9th house) where it conjuncts the asteroid Israel in Obama&#8217;s natal chart.  On ED Barry will be at 8.46 Scorpio (Israel&#8217;s 1st house) conjunct Obama&#8217;s natal Neptune (8.36 Scorpio).  </p>
<p>Palin (using 2/11/1964 4:40 pm Sandpoint, ID) natally has the asteroid Israel at 1.32 Pisces in her 7th house.  She also has Saturn in her 7th at 25.12 Aquarius.  On ED the Israel/Saturn conjunction will be in her 2nd house with Uranus in her 8th.  Sarah Palin’s Moon at 4.14 Aquarius conjuncts Israel’s IC (3.56 Aquarius) and opposes Israel’s Leo Moon.  Israel has the asteroid Sara at 22.47 Taurus conjunct Israel&#8217;s 7th house Sun at 23.41.  Guess what &#8211; Palin’s Sara is natally placed at 23.45 Taurus.  On ED Sara will be at 10.40 Aquarius in Israel&#8217;s 4th house. Palin’s Jupiter (16.45 Aries) trines Israel’s aforementioned Saturn (by 4 min) and Pluto.  Palin’s Neptune (17.45 Scorpio) squares Israel’s Saturn.  Israel’s Uranus (24.21 Gemini) trines Palin’s Aquarius Sun (22.19), Mars (23.27) and Saturn (25.12) conjunction.</p>
<p>Obama’s Sun at 12.32 Leo is conjunct Israel’s Pluto (by 7 min) and Saturn.  His Saturn (25.20 Rx Capricorn) and Mars (22.34 Virgo) trine Israel’s Sun.  This Sun is squared however by Obama’s Uranus (25.16 Leo).   His Uranus is trined by Israel’s Jupiter (27.39 Rx Sagittarius).</p>
<p>Ironically, the asteroid Achaemenides, which I have been using to represent Iran* in another chart, is at 22.49 Rx Pisces, close to Uranus, and transiting Obama&#8217;s 1st house.  This house placement could reflect Obama&#8217;s statements that he would work with Iran to diplomatically resolve the nuclear issue.  The natal placement of Achaemenides is at 18.15 Aries (BHO&#8217;s 2nd house) and inconjunct the ED placement of Israel.  In Palin&#8217;s chart, it is natally at 21.10 Rx Gemini (her 11th house) and will square the ED placement of both Israel and Achaemenides.</p>
<p>I didn’t note all the aspects between the natal charts of Obama and Palin to Israel’s chart.  Not sure that matters as it appears that Israel has interesting contacts to both.  Maybe it will be clearer to you all which one has the stronger, positive contacts.</p>
<p>Just noticed that the asteroid Moskva (Moscow) will be at 25.06 Rx Pisces; Israel has the asteroid America at 25.45 Pisces (5th house).  (The more I look at these charts, the more I feel like I am mixing bleach and ammonia.)</p>
<p>*But Persians united under a genius leader, Cyrus the Great, who founded the dynasty of the Achaemenides.  (<a href="http://news.softpedia.com/news/Persians-The-Zoroastrian-civilization-76742.shtml)" rel="nofollow">http://news.softpedia.com/news/Persians-The-Zoroastrian-civilization-76742.shtml)</a></p>
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